Discussione:Partito Comunista di Kampuchea

Bandiera del Partito[modifica wikitesto]

Ripristino la bandiera rossa e nera con croce precedentemente utilizzata nella voce, dato che nessuna fonte riporta l'utilizzo di quella, arbitrariamente inserita in un secondo momento, con la falce e il martello. Tra le innumerevoli fonti, la BBC adotta quella rossa e nera (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/low/south_asia/79176.stm). Devilslord (contattami) 20:28, 11 nov 2007 (CET)[rispondi]

Information on the issue is avaible at [1] and en:Talk:Khmer Rouge. --Soman 16:05, 29 nov 2007 (CET)[rispondi]

Source for CPK flag at [2]. --Soman 16:06, 29 nov 2007 (CET)[rispondi]

I've read the articles you speak about, but I think it cannot be definitely said that the version you (and Ponchaud) propose is the correct one. In fact, BBC still supports the version you disagree with. I think it's better to speak about this "querelle" directly into this entry (indicating both of the versions). Do you agree with me? --Devilslord (contattami) 18:47, 24 gen 2008 (CET)[rispondi]

Sorry, I don't understand exactly. Do you want to include both flags? The BBC link doesn't make an argument on the flag as such, it just posts is as the 'Khmer Rouge' flag. Its likely that the journalist has gotten the flag either from wikipedia or fotw websites (since it is identical to the version on those websites). If you look at the youtube clip of the film sequence from which this confusion originates, the (monatio) flag is red/dark blue (not red/black) and is a clear diagonal division (not titled like the fotw/wikipedia/bbc versions). I have also presented photos stored at krtrial.org on which flag was actually used in a party function. --Soman 19:44, 24 gen 2008 (CET)[rispondi]

BBC is certainly wrong when it uses the red&black version of the flag with the "rotated" diagonal, and it's very likely that it took that picture just from Commons, but this fact doesn't prove that the correct symbol (the one you posted, which is effectively visible in more than a video) didn't belong to KR. It's rather a sign of superficiality. Indeed, who placed the flag on the BBC website is not necessarily a journalist, and certainly he is not the author of any of the original videos. So, it's possible that the error was committed by the latter, who, becouse of his laziness and/or shortage of information, took the first picture he found on the web under the keyword "Khmer Rouge". Then, since the wrong version is however nice similar to the correct one, probably none noticed the mistake. It would be necessary to question directly BBC about what really happened.

Regarding the Krtrial photo, the use of generic "hammer and sickle" instead of the parties' national symbols was very common in the communist world (even the Italian Communist Party, in its first period, often used simply the soviet flag as its own symbol, although it had a little different one). This custom continues expecially in the Third World (as you can see in some famous photos of the Mao's Chinese Communist Party congresses). So, the photo you linked doesn't prove what you say, in my opinion.

Ponchaud speaks about Monatio, but he doesn't say nothing about its symbol (now I've read better the passage in en:Talk:Khmer Rouge, but I don't have the book anymore, so I can't check this detail). Am I right? The only one who speaks about it is Sihanouk, but his reliability is notoriously nice doubtful, so I wouldn't trust only in his witness. Moreover, in the film you quote, the former king also provides some evident second-hand news (just say, for example, that he couldn't be personally in the streets of Phnom Penh on 17 April 1975). Except, obviously, the reports about the street events, which ones are the other indirect? Is it possible that Sihanouk have simply reported some "rumor" about the symbol of Monatio? Anyway, since he is a source (regardless his reliability), I would insert your Monatiobanner.png in the entry and quote both the BBC and the Sihanouk positions. But I would remove CPKbanner.png. What do you think about? Hi. --Devilslord (contattami) 21:11, 25 gen 2008 (CET)[rispondi]

Ideologia politica[modifica wikitesto]

Ottimo l'intervento dell'anonimo sull'ideologia politica, qualche fonte in più non avrebbe guastato, giusto per consentire a chi è interessato di approfondire. Se l'anonimo non provvede.. quando avrò tempo le inserisco io, la letteratura non manca. Comunque grazie all'anonimo. --Xinstalker (msg) 11:35, 16 giu 2011 (CEST)[rispondi]

Riordino[modifica wikitesto]

La voce era un po' un casino. C'erano svariate sezioni ripetute (Collegamenti esterni, Bibliografia...), ho messo un po' d'ordine e ho diviso in alcune macrosezioni, in modo che ora la storia abbia una certa continuità, Ideologia politica e Comitato Centrale siano sezioni a sé stanti. Credo che ora la voce sia più leggibile. Permane una sezione da riscrivere perché in italiano piuttosto incerto e piena di ripetizioni. Troppi link esterni: sono tutti indispensabili? -- Il Passeggero - amo sentirvi 10:50, 20 mar 2014 (CET)[rispondi]

Estrema sinistra/Comunismo[modifica wikitesto]

E' l'unico partito comunista cambogiano. Riconosciuto come tale dal partito comunista cinese, perché collocarlo all'ultrasinistra? Suvvia un po' di storia! --Xinstalker (msg) 17:03, 27 ott 2014 (CET)[rispondi]

Collegamenti esterni modificati[modifica wikitesto]

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