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My main concern is not that we are violating the copyright of a stock site, but that there is not enough proof these images actually meet the PD no-notice tag criteria. I am not denying they were published, rather the 'no notice' claims are hard to prove and assumptions are being made here. The first problem is that we cannot see the entire print, sheet or strip to verify the lack of notice claims. The copyright notice would not be on the photo like a watermark; it would be elsewhere. Getty only shows the high-resolution scan of the front. An example of an image that shows no notice, this UPI photo: File:Senator Ross Bass "On the Job!" (1965 UPI press photo).jpg, can be seen on the rear. Most of these photographs from the Bettmann Archive could very well be public domain, but without seeing the whole photo or its backside where a notice might be, its copyright status is uncertain. Assuming it's public domain without further verification is risky. The second problem is that almost all photos are credited to an 'unknown author.' How are we supposed to know who took the photo? Otto Bettmann was the collector of these photos, not the creator or copyright holder, and neither is Getty. Many photos come from various sources and creators, and I did see some that are credited to UPI, a press agency, so perhaps other copies exist elsewhere. This is also problematic for photos from 1978 and later, as we cannot really search for registrations. For pre-1964 photos, we can search for renewals, so it is not the same concern as with the 1964-1989 photos. Essentially, any and all photos could be Public Domain, but there is a serious lack of evidence to back up those claims. I am making this mass DR as I have doubts on the freedom of these files, but also for a consensus. What do we do with all these photos? There are millions more in the archive that could be useful to the Commons. Would love to hear others opinions on this. | |||
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My main concern is not that we are violating the copyright of a stock site, but that there is not enough proof these images actually meet the PD no-notice tag criteria. I am not denying they were published, rather the 'no notice' claims are hard to prove and assumptions are being made here. The first problem is that we cannot see the entire print, sheet or strip to verify the lack of notice claims. The copyright notice would not be on the photo like a watermark; it would be elsewhere. Getty only shows the high-resolution scan of the front. An example of an image that shows no notice, this UPI photo: File:Senator Ross Bass "On the Job!" (1965 UPI press photo).jpg, can be seen on the rear. Most of these photographs from the Bettmann Archive could very well be public domain, but without seeing the whole photo or its backside where a notice might be, its copyright status is uncertain. Assuming it's public domain without further verification is risky. The second problem is that almost all photos are credited to an 'unknown author.' How are we supposed to know who took the photo? Otto Bettmann was the collector of these photos, not the creator or copyright holder, and neither is Getty. Many photos come from various sources and creators, and I did see some that are credited to UPI, a press agency, so perhaps other copies exist elsewhere. This is also problematic for photos from 1978 and later, as we cannot really search for registrations. For pre-1964 photos, we can search for renewals, so it is not the same concern as with the 1964-1989 photos. Essentially, any and all photos could be Public Domain, but there is a serious lack of evidence to back up those claims. I am making this mass DR as I have doubts on the freedom of these files, but also for a consensus. What do we do with all these photos? There are millions more in the archive that could be useful to the Commons. Would love to hear others opinions on this.}} ~~~~
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DescrizioneGov Otto Kerner - 1967 (croppedmore).jpg |
English: "(Original Caption) Governor Otto Kerner of Illinois, speaking outside White House, August 1st. Kerner was recently appointed chairman of the Special Advisory Commission on Civil Disorders by President Johnson." [sic] |
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Fonte | Bettmann Archive/517771848/u1563603a.jpg | |||
Autore | Unknown, dedicated to Bettmann Archive | |||
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Bettmann does not usually hold the copyright to images donated to the collection, nor does it have copyright filings nor a copyright notice on any of their work before 1978. Getty does not hold the copyright to most, if any of their photos, a statement backed up by numerous lawsuits and court rulings. A copyright notice can be defined by the following criteria: 1. The symbol © (the letter C in a circle), or the word "Copyright" or the abbreviation "Copr."; 2. The year of first publication of the work; and 3. The name of the owner of copyright in the work. |
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Quest'opera è nel pubblico dominio perché pubblicata negli Stati Uniti fra il 1929 e il 1977, inclusi, senza un avviso di copyright. A meno che l'autore non sia morto da molti anni, non è nel pubblico dominio nei Paesi o nelle aree che non applicano la regola della durata più breve per le opere statunitensi, come Canada (50 pma), Cina (50 pma, ma non Hong Kong o Macao), Germania (70 pma), Messico (100 pma), Svizzera (70 pma), e altri Paesi con trattati individuali. Vedi questa pagina per ulteriori informazioni.
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Autore | Bettmann |
Crediti | Bettmann Archive |
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Software | Adobe Photoshop 21.2 (Windows) |
Data e ora di modifica del file | 17:53, 21 mag 2023 |
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ID univoco del documento originale | 403BAE8DE1E6F6360D8A8CAC291882AB |
Data e ora di digitalizzazione | 12:45, 21 mag 2023 |
Data in cui i metadata sono stati modificati l'ultima volta | 12:53, 21 mag 2023 |